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	<title>Comments on: Seth Godin : Fear : Vertigo Tolerance : Change</title>
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		<title>By: Gena Rotstein</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2009/09/seth-godin-fear-vertigo-tolerance-change/comment-page-1#comment-7820</link>
		<dc:creator>Gena Rotstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On March 3, 2009 I posted an article about Change Agents and the non-profit sector - http://www.dexterityconsulting.ca/Innovation_and_Charities

In this piece I highlight some of the innovative thinking occuring in the charitable sector.  While the post is not focusing on Social Media, it does talk about what the Kellogg Foundation and other donors are doing as well as what charities like Storehouse 39:3:10 are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On March 3, 2009 I posted an article about Change Agents and the non-profit sector &#8211; <a href="http://www.dexterityconsulting.ca/Innovation_and_Charities" rel="nofollow">http://www.dexterityconsulting.ca/Innovation_and_Charities</a></p>
<p>In this piece I highlight some of the innovative thinking occuring in the charitable sector.  While the post is not focusing on Social Media, it does talk about what the Kellogg Foundation and other donors are doing as well as what charities like Storehouse 39:3:10 are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Wroblewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Wroblewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive this cross comment to various blogs: My response is to repeat what I wrote when I took issue with Godin in 2006 for slamming nonprofits for not using Squidoo: http://bit.ly/06Godin

Given the episode in 2006, plus Godin&#039;s response to Tom Watson about Squidoo  ( http://bit.ly/401WHM )  one can&#039;t help but wonder if the nonprofit execs that Godin cites in this week&#039;s post were rejecting Squidoo, rather than online fundraising and social media in general.  In fact, a friend from a large nonprofit told me his nonprofit was treated arrogantly by Seth and company when they refused to get involved with Squidoo -- the nonprofit leaders were made to feel stupid.

And if we&#039;re talking about blowing people away, you know what would blow me away? If Seth would publish a detailed report showing exact amounts raised by each nonprofit in the Squidoo program, along with case studies of the time and resources they expended.  To my knowledge, detailed figures have not been published -- there are only vague statements about thousands raised.

That would be the best thing Seth could do to help nonprofits use Squidoo effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive this cross comment to various blogs: My response is to repeat what I wrote when I took issue with Godin in 2006 for slamming nonprofits for not using Squidoo: <a href="http://bit.ly/06Godin" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/06Godin</a></p>
<p>Given the episode in 2006, plus Godin&#8217;s response to Tom Watson about Squidoo  ( <a href="http://bit.ly/401WHM" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/401WHM</a> )  one can&#8217;t help but wonder if the nonprofit execs that Godin cites in this week&#8217;s post were rejecting Squidoo, rather than online fundraising and social media in general.  In fact, a friend from a large nonprofit told me his nonprofit was treated arrogantly by Seth and company when they refused to get involved with Squidoo &#8212; the nonprofit leaders were made to feel stupid.</p>
<p>And if we&#8217;re talking about blowing people away, you know what would blow me away? If Seth would publish a detailed report showing exact amounts raised by each nonprofit in the Squidoo program, along with case studies of the time and resources they expended.  To my knowledge, detailed figures have not been published &#8212; there are only vague statements about thousands raised.</p>
<p>That would be the best thing Seth could do to help nonprofits use Squidoo effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Kanter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Kanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific post - and framing!  Thank you.

I wanted share a few recent posts about some methods for working through the vertigo
http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/to-adopt-social-media-master-the-dread.html

http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/what-do-maori-and-gourma-creation-stories-have-in-common-with-social-media.html


Also, we don&#039;t where we are - what does the adoption curve for social media and nonprofits look like?

Does the fear come from resisters only?  Have we crossed the Chasm finally?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cambodia4kidsorg/397202645/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post &#8211; and framing!  Thank you.</p>
<p>I wanted share a few recent posts about some methods for working through the vertigo<br />
<a href="http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/to-adopt-social-media-master-the-dread.html" rel="nofollow">http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/to-adopt-social-media-master-the-dread.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/what-do-maori-and-gourma-creation-stories-have-in-common-with-social-media.html" rel="nofollow">http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/08/what-do-maori-and-gourma-creation-stories-have-in-common-with-social-media.html</a></p>
<p>Also, we don&#8217;t where we are &#8211; what does the adoption curve for social media and nonprofits look like?</p>
<p>Does the fear come from resisters only?  Have we crossed the Chasm finally?<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cambodia4kidsorg/397202645/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cambodia4kidsorg/397202645/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,
You make an important point. There are two other threads in Seth&#039;s post that I intentionally avoided, because they deserve their own separate debates.

1) Are nonprofits worse at social media than anyone else? This is the point that Tom makes and I think that most of the evidence points to nonprofits being as effective or more effective as for-profits. However, I&#039;d also argue that both nonprofits and for-profits are not particularly good at it yet. Certainly Seth&#039;s point that the nonprofits he supports spam him afterwards is something donors and customers both see themselves.

2) Are the metrics Seth cited, such as Twitter followers, valid? I think they are not. In an email to me (which Seth gave me permission to quote from) he wrote:

&quot;It&#039;s important to note that my post has nothing to do with Twitter, not one thing. My post was about fear of change and need for control, Twitter was just an easy way to make a point. I hate it when people think I&#039;m being literal...&quot;

The Top 100 Twitter mention in his blog was a poor choice in my opinion. But I&#039;m not particularly interested in having a conversation about which social media metrics are best. That&#039;s a better conversation for another blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
You make an important point. There are two other threads in Seth&#8217;s post that I intentionally avoided, because they deserve their own separate debates.</p>
<p>1) Are nonprofits worse at social media than anyone else? This is the point that Tom makes and I think that most of the evidence points to nonprofits being as effective or more effective as for-profits. However, I&#8217;d also argue that both nonprofits and for-profits are not particularly good at it yet. Certainly Seth&#8217;s point that the nonprofits he supports spam him afterwards is something donors and customers both see themselves.</p>
<p>2) Are the metrics Seth cited, such as Twitter followers, valid? I think they are not. In an email to me (which Seth gave me permission to quote from) he wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s important to note that my post has nothing to do with Twitter, not one thing. My post was about fear of change and need for control, Twitter was just an easy way to make a point. I hate it when people think I&#8217;m being literal&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The Top 100 Twitter mention in his blog was a poor choice in my opinion. But I&#8217;m not particularly interested in having a conversation about which social media metrics are best. That&#8217;s a better conversation for another blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I found Seth describing The Tribes We Lead a bit spooky. In it he refers to a nonprofit raising awareness on disposal of unwanted animals, connecting with Ukrainian folk dancers and going as far as overthrowing a government. Almost as if he&#039;d been following our efforts to raise awareness of disposable children, connecting with Ukrainian activists and persuading them to reform childcare policy. What he may have missed is that we aren&#039;t non in the context of profit, we apply it to fund activism.

We observed later that the charity Everychild, who we&#039;d met with to discuss early actions, was able to achieve similar influence on Georgia&#039;s government.  So nonprofits can change too.

The change philanthropy perhaps isn&#039;t ready for is that it may become redundant in the existing form when the social businesses approach, which is &quot;philanthropic&quot; from inception, begins to deliver large scale impact which is not dependent on (anti)social capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I found Seth describing The Tribes We Lead a bit spooky. In it he refers to a nonprofit raising awareness on disposal of unwanted animals, connecting with Ukrainian folk dancers and going as far as overthrowing a government. Almost as if he&#8217;d been following our efforts to raise awareness of disposable children, connecting with Ukrainian activists and persuading them to reform childcare policy. What he may have missed is that we aren&#8217;t non in the context of profit, we apply it to fund activism.</p>
<p>We observed later that the charity Everychild, who we&#8217;d met with to discuss early actions, was able to achieve similar influence on Georgia&#8217;s government.  So nonprofits can change too.</p>
<p>The change philanthropy perhaps isn&#8217;t ready for is that it may become redundant in the existing form when the social businesses approach, which is &#8220;philanthropic&#8221; from inception, begins to deliver large scale impact which is not dependent on (anti)social capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Panepento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Panepento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that change is uncomfortable and that fear of change is holding back some groups.

But what I think one point that needs to be made is that there is actually plenty of evidence to show that Godin is off-base in saying that nonprofit groups are cowering in the corner while others are rushing to take advantage of the opportunities presented by social media.

In fact, it can be argued that nonprofit groups are among the most aggressive organizations out there in using social media to promote change. There are some really innovative people out there rallying supporters behind some very worthy causes through Twitter, Facebook, and the like: http://philanthropy.com/giveandtake/article/1294/followers-and-friends-not-the-only-measure-of-nonprofit-success-online

Godin&#039;s post made it sound like the nonprofit world is filled with Luddites. Yes, many groups have been slow to adapt. But a large number are also working through the vertigo that Beth mentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that change is uncomfortable and that fear of change is holding back some groups.</p>
<p>But what I think one point that needs to be made is that there is actually plenty of evidence to show that Godin is off-base in saying that nonprofit groups are cowering in the corner while others are rushing to take advantage of the opportunities presented by social media.</p>
<p>In fact, it can be argued that nonprofit groups are among the most aggressive organizations out there in using social media to promote change. There are some really innovative people out there rallying supporters behind some very worthy causes through Twitter, Facebook, and the like: <a href="http://philanthropy.com/giveandtake/article/1294/followers-and-friends-not-the-only-measure-of-nonprofit-success-online" rel="nofollow">http://philanthropy.com/giveandtake/article/1294/followers-and-friends-not-the-only-measure-of-nonprofit-success-online</a></p>
<p>Godin&#8217;s post made it sound like the nonprofit world is filled with Luddites. Yes, many groups have been slow to adapt. But a large number are also working through the vertigo that Beth mentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeffrey. I think people can best do long term planning when they are comfortable. It is hard to think about the future when you are scared about the present. So I would hope that obtaining Vertigo Tolerance would push for more long term thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeffrey. I think people can best do long term planning when they are comfortable. It is hard to think about the future when you are scared about the present. So I would hope that obtaining Vertigo Tolerance would push for more long term thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Berlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Berlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly enjoyable post, seems like everyone can learn to become more flexible as you are saying. My question is as people are becoming more willing to embed within a context of discomfort are they willing and able to think strategically about what long-term goals they are wanting to realize? Different methods are changing only because they are not realizing desired results, then can we as people within such a context actually get enough common language to define goals which then new strategies can grow into delivering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly enjoyable post, seems like everyone can learn to become more flexible as you are saying. My question is as people are becoming more willing to embed within a context of discomfort are they willing and able to think strategically about what long-term goals they are wanting to realize? Different methods are changing only because they are not realizing desired results, then can we as people within such a context actually get enough common language to define goals which then new strategies can grow into delivering?</p>
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