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	<title>Comments on: Using Social Entrepreneurs to Sell Chips</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2009/05/using-social-entrepreneurs-to-sell-chips/comment-page-1#comment-6952</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ross. It is no coincidence that TrueNorth is a Frito-Lay brand, just like Doritos and they are all owned by Pepsi, one of the top branding companies ever.

I agree with your final judgment: Lives are at stake.

FYI: Ross is the web designer and developer behind Tactical Philanthropy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ross. It is no coincidence that TrueNorth is a Frito-Lay brand, just like Doritos and they are all owned by Pepsi, one of the top branding companies ever.</p>
<p>I agree with your final judgment: Lives are at stake.</p>
<p>FYI: Ross is the web designer and developer behind Tactical Philanthropy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A congruent example that comes to mind is Frito-Lay&#039;s TrueNorth brand featuring short web commercial/video exposes with pioneer changemakers like Majora Carter.  See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_yQyjaVK88 .  

Like Tony, I&#039;m simply split.  And I understand that the failure is not in my stalemated conviction but is rather our current maligned system of capital flows that can&#039;t help but match big dollars with grass roots - no way can we pass judgment on these changemakers that need to sustain the life of their movement by any means necessary: human lives are stake, literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A congruent example that comes to mind is Frito-Lay&#8217;s TrueNorth brand featuring short web commercial/video exposes with pioneer changemakers like Majora Carter.  See: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_yQyjaVK88" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_yQyjaVK88</a> .  </p>
<p>Like Tony, I&#8217;m simply split.  And I understand that the failure is not in my stalemated conviction but is rather our current maligned system of capital flows that can&#8217;t help but match big dollars with grass roots &#8211; no way can we pass judgment on these changemakers that need to sustain the life of their movement by any means necessary: human lives are stake, literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2009/05/using-social-entrepreneurs-to-sell-chips/comment-page-1#comment-6933</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get it Tony. This is tough. I think the importance of the branding is that Doritos recognizes that branding themselves as social responsible is important. People want meaning in their lives. If anything this validates &lt;a href=&quot;http://socialentrepreneurship.change.org/blog/view/your_brand_is_an_invitation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nathaniel&#039;s post from today on branding&lt;/a&gt;. Nonprofits have a great story to sell. My guess is that over time a company like Doritos will not be able to compete and win an &quot;endorsement&quot; from a social entrepreneur because there will be brands that are better aligned.

Ben &amp; Jerry&#039;s sells ultra high fat products, but I don&#039;t think as many people would cringe if they saw Kjerstin on the back of a Ben &amp; Jerry&#039;s pint.

From Kjerstin&#039;s point of view, this is a huge win and the smart thing to do. If she were running an anti-obesity nonprofit, this would have a different set of issues. But if having her photo on a bag of Doritos helps her help African refugees, who is anyone to tell her the &quot;brand alignment is bad&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get it Tony. This is tough. I think the importance of the branding is that Doritos recognizes that branding themselves as social responsible is important. People want meaning in their lives. If anything this validates <a href="http://socialentrepreneurship.change.org/blog/view/your_brand_is_an_invitation" rel="nofollow">Nathaniel&#8217;s post from today on branding</a>. Nonprofits have a great story to sell. My guess is that over time a company like Doritos will not be able to compete and win an &#8220;endorsement&#8221; from a social entrepreneur because there will be brands that are better aligned.</p>
<p>Ben &#038; Jerry&#8217;s sells ultra high fat products, but I don&#8217;t think as many people would cringe if they saw Kjerstin on the back of a Ben &#038; Jerry&#8217;s pint.</p>
<p>From Kjerstin&#8217;s point of view, this is a huge win and the smart thing to do. If she were running an anti-obesity nonprofit, this would have a different set of issues. But if having her photo on a bag of Doritos helps her help African refugees, who is anyone to tell her the &#8220;brand alignment is bad&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: mirm</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2009/05/using-social-entrepreneurs-to-sell-chips/comment-page-1#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>mirm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former philosophy major, I appreciate your comment.  But in today&#039;s age, i think we need to keep our eye on the prize, which is about the end result - delivering impact.  If Doritos and FORGE have found a mutually beneficial way to enhance the value of both brands for positive social change, more power to them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former philosophy major, I appreciate your comment.  But in today&#8217;s age, i think we need to keep our eye on the prize, which is about the end result &#8211; delivering impact.  If Doritos and FORGE have found a mutually beneficial way to enhance the value of both brands for positive social change, more power to them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Wang</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2009/05/using-social-entrepreneurs-to-sell-chips/comment-page-1#comment-6931</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kantian deontological part of me cringes to know that Doritos is selling more chips because they&#039;re using Kjerstin and FORGE for a less than benevolent purpose. The John Stuart Mills utilitarian part of me knows that Kjerstin is doing the right thing because she&#039;s trying to sell FORGE and increase impact.

I&#039;m not sure what to really think of all this, but it&#039;s both exciting and frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kantian deontological part of me cringes to know that Doritos is selling more chips because they&#8217;re using Kjerstin and FORGE for a less than benevolent purpose. The John Stuart Mills utilitarian part of me knows that Kjerstin is doing the right thing because she&#8217;s trying to sell FORGE and increase impact.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to really think of all this, but it&#8217;s both exciting and frightening.</p>
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