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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the 'Universities need to make their own social networks' notion. I for one, would never join simply because it will never and can never beat the facebook / linkedin combo.

That said, I think there is merit to providing value. I'd happily support an institution that could give me real value for my money. Be it through social activism, resources, programming or whatever. Don't put out your hand unless you've got some goodies to dangle in the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the &#8216;Universities need to make their own social networks&#8217; notion. I for one, would never join simply because it will never and can never beat the facebook / linkedin combo.</p>
<p>That said, I think there is merit to providing value. I&#8217;d happily support an institution that could give me real value for my money. Be it through social activism, resources, programming or whatever. Don&#8217;t put out your hand unless you&#8217;ve got some goodies to dangle in the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chakrabarti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Chakrabarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who never graduated, but has taken coursework at a very large number of institutions (growing semesterly, it seems), this is an interesting discussion :)

So far, I haven't seen a compelling reason to give to any of the institutions I've been a part of. Some (such as the Chicago City Colleges) provide several compelling reasons *not* to give. Others simply failed to engage me beyond the classroom; even at institutions such as Haverford and the University of Chicago that have a strongly enforced sense of physical community fail to reproduce that same sense of community online, and beyond the classroom. The Louis August Jonas Foundation (which runs a leadership camp for youth) is a nonprofit that makes precisely the same mistake, despite having a growing number of engaged, enlightened alumni. 

I think the problem is that no one's outlined *how* to build an engaged community in a form aimed at university / nonprofit administrators. I've yet to see a collective vision for an "ideal" nonprofit facebook application, for example, even as a techie. When such a document exists for non-techie decision-makers, we'll start to see things changing. Until then, we'll keep having the powers-that-be read this blog and tell us to set up MySpace and Facebook pages today (and then forget about it).

We need a guide to fostering community online, a how-to for successful social networks, and we need it described in language that makes it easier to evaluate and adopt as part of a technology strategy. 

Or you guys can wait a while, and I'll write one once I figure it out :) Anyone wanna help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who never graduated, but has taken coursework at a very large number of institutions (growing semesterly, it seems), this is an interesting discussion <img src='http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So far, I haven&#8217;t seen a compelling reason to give to any of the institutions I&#8217;ve been a part of. Some (such as the Chicago City Colleges) provide several compelling reasons *not* to give. Others simply failed to engage me beyond the classroom; even at institutions such as Haverford and the University of Chicago that have a strongly enforced sense of physical community fail to reproduce that same sense of community online, and beyond the classroom. The Louis August Jonas Foundation (which runs a leadership camp for youth) is a nonprofit that makes precisely the same mistake, despite having a growing number of engaged, enlightened alumni. </p>
<p>I think the problem is that no one&#8217;s outlined *how* to build an engaged community in a form aimed at university / nonprofit administrators. I&#8217;ve yet to see a collective vision for an &#8220;ideal&#8221; nonprofit facebook application, for example, even as a techie. When such a document exists for non-techie decision-makers, we&#8217;ll start to see things changing. Until then, we&#8217;ll keep having the powers-that-be read this blog and tell us to set up MySpace and Facebook pages today (and then forget about it).</p>
<p>We need a guide to fostering community online, a how-to for successful social networks, and we need it described in language that makes it easier to evaluate and adopt as part of a technology strategy. </p>
<p>Or you guys can wait a while, and I&#8217;ll write one once I figure it out <img src='http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Anyone wanna help?</p>
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		<title>By: Maya Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam, 

Great ideas. I found your entry inspiring and am crafting a three post series around this idea. I'll post links when I do (and hey, you get an extra comment). 

In my opinion, an alumni giving office must do three things to prove to me that my giving will be of value to them. 

1. I have to get the message that my giving will be appreciated regardless of the dollar amount

2. I need to feel in control of how my dollars are used, as a donor as a larger donor would

3. I have to feel as if my donation benefits the community and increases my ability to support the institution in a way that has value

That being said, it doesn't answer the question of how an alumni giving office can make this happen-- but I will tell you. I need to be receiving holistic messages of community involvement from my alumni office in which the gift I make will only be one part of that. 

I need to feel as my contribution to my
institute of education is more valuable than what comes out of my pocketbook and that they are seeking my personal value as a contributer and that I am not just a check in a box or a dollar in a piggy bank.  

Fortunately, I graduated with an absolutely stellar education from both my high school and college and they are in regular communication with their goals and promotional material, so I have a really good sense of how this works. 

Sam, from you, and also from the other commenters, I wonder what would need to happen for you to give to your school? Are there two or three things that they could do to make you want to give? What would they be? 

Look forward to hearing your thoughts. 

Maya Norton

The New Jew: Blogging Jewish Philanthropy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam, </p>
<p>Great ideas. I found your entry inspiring and am crafting a three post series around this idea. I&#8217;ll post links when I do (and hey, you get an extra comment). </p>
<p>In my opinion, an alumni giving office must do three things to prove to me that my giving will be of value to them. </p>
<p>1. I have to get the message that my giving will be appreciated regardless of the dollar amount</p>
<p>2. I need to feel in control of how my dollars are used, as a donor as a larger donor would</p>
<p>3. I have to feel as if my donation benefits the community and increases my ability to support the institution in a way that has value</p>
<p>That being said, it doesn&#8217;t answer the question of how an alumni giving office can make this happen&#8211; but I will tell you. I need to be receiving holistic messages of community involvement from my alumni office in which the gift I make will only be one part of that. </p>
<p>I need to feel as my contribution to my<br />
institute of education is more valuable than what comes out of my pocketbook and that they are seeking my personal value as a contributer and that I am not just a check in a box or a dollar in a piggy bank.  </p>
<p>Fortunately, I graduated with an absolutely stellar education from both my high school and college and they are in regular communication with their goals and promotional material, so I have a really good sense of how this works. </p>
<p>Sam, from you, and also from the other commenters, I wonder what would need to happen for you to give to your school? Are there two or three things that they could do to make you want to give? What would they be? </p>
<p>Look forward to hearing your thoughts. </p>
<p>Maya Norton</p>
<p>The New Jew: Blogging Jewish Philanthropy</p>
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		<title>By: PhilDeely</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilDeely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago [c.1975] I was one of the AF representatives for my 1969 Hobart class and we too despaired about lack of participation.  We secured 100's of crisp, new $1 bills and sent one to each classmate with a note saying the College had always been there in the past and that, if necessary, the $1 could be used for food, phone, or bail money!  On the other hand if circumstances permitted we invited class mates to reach into their wallets and match and return to the Fund. As I recollect we got a lot of 1x gifts and some wise remarks...but for young alumni it hit the right note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago [c.1975] I was one of the AF representatives for my 1969 Hobart class and we too despaired about lack of participation.  We secured 100&#8217;s of crisp, new $1 bills and sent one to each classmate with a note saying the College had always been there in the past and that, if necessary, the $1 could be used for food, phone, or bail money!  On the other hand if circumstances permitted we invited class mates to reach into their wallets and match and return to the Fund. As I recollect we got a lot of 1x gifts and some wise remarks&#8230;but for young alumni it hit the right note.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social networks exist at many schools such as Dartmouth and Stanford. Actually, Stanford has several networks including a new one focused on 'healthy living.' See: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/23/stanford-wants-its-students-to-be-healthy-as-well-as-rich/

The issue is that most school falsely believe their current online directories are in fact social networks. Profiles and group features do not equal a community. What schools don't understand is that alumni need to engage each other, not simply content.

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social networks exist at many schools such as Dartmouth and Stanford. Actually, Stanford has several networks including a new one focused on &#8216;healthy living.&#8217; See: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/23/stanford-wants-its-students-to-be-healthy-as-well-as-rich/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/23/stanford-wants-its-students-to-be-healthy-as-well-as-rich/</a></p>
<p>The issue is that most school falsely believe their current online directories are in fact social networks. Profiles and group features do not equal a community. What schools don&#8217;t understand is that alumni need to engage each other, not simply content.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: E. I. Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. I. Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean, 

Exactly.  Education wise, the big name schools I attended for BA &#38; MA didn't do anything extraordinary.  I mean - I attended Junior Colleges so I was able to compare the different schools.  It was all the same: Powerpoints, Thick Books, and Homework.  

You definitely nailed it: They forgot to build the Love. The Loyalty.  For the teachers that made a difference, I still talk to them.  I would rather build personal relationships with them than with an “institution”.  

As far as solicitation methods, they don’t really matter when you care about the cause.  WorldVision emails, sends regular mail, and (very rarely) calls me.  I don't mind giving to them.  It's all about the Love.

Edgar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean, </p>
<p>Exactly.  Education wise, the big name schools I attended for BA &amp; MA didn&#8217;t do anything extraordinary.  I mean - I attended Junior Colleges so I was able to compare the different schools.  It was all the same: Powerpoints, Thick Books, and Homework.  </p>
<p>You definitely nailed it: They forgot to build the Love. The Loyalty.  For the teachers that made a difference, I still talk to them.  I would rather build personal relationships with them than with an “institution”.  </p>
<p>As far as solicitation methods, they don’t really matter when you care about the cause.  WorldVision emails, sends regular mail, and (very rarely) calls me.  I don&#8217;t mind giving to them.  It&#8217;s all about the Love.</p>
<p>Edgar</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words you don't support your school because you don't particularly think they did a great job and whether you are solicited by mail or online doesn't matter.

I think it is key for nonprofits to remember that the best way to get donations is to make sure that donors love you, then move on to the best way to solicit donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words you don&#8217;t support your school because you don&#8217;t particularly think they did a great job and whether you are solicited by mail or online doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>I think it is key for nonprofits to remember that the best way to get donations is to make sure that donors love you, then move on to the best way to solicit donations.</p>
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		<title>By: E. I. Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. I. Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I don't give is that - while I was a student - I received little help from my schools (undergrad and grad).  I had to pay for everything.  I have a huge student loan.

After I graduated, I also found little help or support from my schools.  

The job placement has always been a joke.  

The Alumni Social Events don't take into account family Life.  Who wants to get together for drinks after work, or visit an art gallery on a Friday night when you have a baby at home?  

In short, the schools and alumni groups need to build loyalty and brand recognition. 

People who have the extra cash - well - they are always willing to help and most of them are very generous.  The rest of us have student loans to pay.

Edgar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I don&#8217;t give is that - while I was a student - I received little help from my schools (undergrad and grad).  I had to pay for everything.  I have a huge student loan.</p>
<p>After I graduated, I also found little help or support from my schools.  </p>
<p>The job placement has always been a joke.  </p>
<p>The Alumni Social Events don&#8217;t take into account family Life.  Who wants to get together for drinks after work, or visit an art gallery on a Friday night when you have a baby at home?  </p>
<p>In short, the schools and alumni groups need to build loyalty and brand recognition. </p>
<p>People who have the extra cash - well - they are always willing to help and most of them are very generous.  The rest of us have student loans to pay.</p>
<p>Edgar.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't own stamps... Talk about digital natives! I love the previous comment "I don’t really ‘do paper’"

I would guess that colleges, compared to most nonprofits, have an unique opportunity to connect with young donors since they have a real connection to the school and they are all college grads (ie. decent income).

Sam, can you point to any school who are doing the online network thing well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t own stamps&#8230; Talk about digital natives! I love the previous comment &#8220;I don’t really ‘do paper’&#8221;</p>
<p>I would guess that colleges, compared to most nonprofits, have an unique opportunity to connect with young donors since they have a real connection to the school and they are all college grads (ie. decent income).</p>
<p>Sam, can you point to any school who are doing the online network thing well?</p>
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		<title>By: PhilDeely</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilDeely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted to pass along 2 posted comments...

Sam,

You raise some great points. I'm a young graduate myself from a great private college. Just to reiterate your point, whenever I recieve a fundraising notice from my school the first thing I do is throw it in the trash. 

Question, why dont schools create private social networks like Facebook where alums would go and network? You could also provide easy donations methods through eash schools network.

Whoever decides to build such an application will do quite well especially with all the issues surrounding Facebook these days.

November 6, 2007 4:26 PM   
Maisie said... 
This post is great! As a youngish alum of various schools I am often inundated with development mailings. 

To be honest, unless they are tied to something specific regarding my personal experience (aka class notes, about a former teacher, from someone I actually know), I often chuck them. 

Ok, thats kind of a lie, even if there is a good hook I often don't read. Why? Like the above commenter, I don't really 'do paper'. Reading real mail seems sooo slow. 

All things electronic get to me faster, and since I work at a desk/computer, I am more likely to be 'on' and focused when reading email. 

However, having recently become professionally involved in the development world I will have to get better about participation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to pass along 2 posted comments&#8230;</p>
<p>Sam,</p>
<p>You raise some great points. I&#8217;m a young graduate myself from a great private college. Just to reiterate your point, whenever I recieve a fundraising notice from my school the first thing I do is throw it in the trash. </p>
<p>Question, why dont schools create private social networks like Facebook where alums would go and network? You could also provide easy donations methods through eash schools network.</p>
<p>Whoever decides to build such an application will do quite well especially with all the issues surrounding Facebook these days.</p>
<p>November 6, 2007 4:26 PM<br />
Maisie said&#8230;<br />
This post is great! As a youngish alum of various schools I am often inundated with development mailings. </p>
<p>To be honest, unless they are tied to something specific regarding my personal experience (aka class notes, about a former teacher, from someone I actually know), I often chuck them. </p>
<p>Ok, thats kind of a lie, even if there is a good hook I often don&#8217;t read. Why? Like the above commenter, I don&#8217;t really &#8216;do paper&#8217;. Reading real mail seems sooo slow. </p>
<p>All things electronic get to me faster, and since I work at a desk/computer, I am more likely to be &#8216;on&#8217; and focused when reading email. </p>
<p>However, having recently become professionally involved in the development world I will have to get better about participation!</p>
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