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	<title>Comments on: Mission Related Investing</title>
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		<title>By: Holden</title>
		<link>http://tacticalphilanthropy.com/2007/05/mission-related-investing/comment-page-1#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it will ever be feasible to legally force foundations to do MRIs.  The reason is that that would require a federal code determining what is &quot;mission related&quot; and what isn&#039;t.  If you&#039;ve ever taken a good look at what it takes to qualify as a &quot;charity&quot; according to the IRS, and seen the NRA and the Golf Association and the Beef Association and everyone else, you know that this isn&#039;t a reasonable burden to place on the govt.

The IRS does review whether grants are mission aligned ... but (a) I don&#039;t exactly feel secure that they&#039;re keeping all the foundations in line; (b) it would get infinitely more complicated if profit were allowed to be part of the justification for a grant/investment.

I&#039;d personally rather just see foundations have to pay taxes on investment income like everyone else.  I think any favorable treatment should be given only for what they actually do to improve the world.  You may disagree with my mentality of wanting to push them to &quot;use it or lose it,&quot; but keep in mind that taxing investment income would merely be returning the system to NEUTRAL (currently, it is giving them favorable treatment for spending later instead of now - who can defend that?)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it will ever be feasible to legally force foundations to do MRIs.  The reason is that that would require a federal code determining what is &#8220;mission related&#8221; and what isn&#8217;t.  If you&#8217;ve ever taken a good look at what it takes to qualify as a &#8220;charity&#8221; according to the IRS, and seen the NRA and the Golf Association and the Beef Association and everyone else, you know that this isn&#8217;t a reasonable burden to place on the govt.</p>
<p>The IRS does review whether grants are mission aligned &#8230; but (a) I don&#8217;t exactly feel secure that they&#8217;re keeping all the foundations in line; (b) it would get infinitely more complicated if profit were allowed to be part of the justification for a grant/investment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d personally rather just see foundations have to pay taxes on investment income like everyone else.  I think any favorable treatment should be given only for what they actually do to improve the world.  You may disagree with my mentality of wanting to push them to &#8220;use it or lose it,&#8221; but keep in mind that taxing investment income would merely be returning the system to NEUTRAL (currently, it is giving them favorable treatment for spending later instead of now &#8211; who can defend that?)</p>
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		<title>By: Neesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There simply isn’t MRI opportunities available to absorb the half a trillion dollars in foundation assets.&quot;

This is a good point, but I&#039;m not sure Lucy is implying that there are such opportunities--her argument is simply: No favorable tax rate for non mission-aligned investments. She&#039;s not suggesting that foundations be &lt;i&gt;required&lt;/i&gt; to invest in such a manner--just that, if they don&#039;t, they get taxed.

I mean, the dollars foundations must pay in taxes still go into the public coffers--that&#039;s still an okay from the public standpoint, right?

Good point from Alex about more incentive to spend if there are no tax advantages.

I wonder about this point:

&quot;This means that the foundation is viewed as providing a public benefit, not just based on the dollar value of grants they make, but also from the value that arises from having an institution whose very existence is designed to benefit the public.&quot;

Now, do foundations really provide a public benefit just by existing? Or does their public benefit more closely track with the money they give away?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There simply isn’t MRI opportunities available to absorb the half a trillion dollars in foundation assets.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a good point, but I&#8217;m not sure Lucy is implying that there are such opportunities&#8211;her argument is simply: No favorable tax rate for non mission-aligned investments. She&#8217;s not suggesting that foundations be <i>required</i> to invest in such a manner&#8211;just that, if they don&#8217;t, they get taxed.</p>
<p>I mean, the dollars foundations must pay in taxes still go into the public coffers&#8211;that&#8217;s still an okay from the public standpoint, right?</p>
<p>Good point from Alex about more incentive to spend if there are no tax advantages.</p>
<p>I wonder about this point:</p>
<p>&#8220;This means that the foundation is viewed as providing a public benefit, not just based on the dollar value of grants they make, but also from the value that arises from having an institution whose very existence is designed to benefit the public.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, do foundations really provide a public benefit just by existing? Or does their public benefit more closely track with the money they give away?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex. I enjoy thinking through these issues and look forward to a more dynamic conversation evolving as well.

Perpetuity is an interesting question. I tend to think the choice to be perpetual or not should be up to the board and not enforced via taxation. However, I don&#039;t think enough thought goes into creating a strategic time horizon for the foundation. I&#039;m hearing more foundations, large and small, talking about not wanting to exist forever.

Thanks for your comment. Any thoughts you have on these issues is appreciated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex. I enjoy thinking through these issues and look forward to a more dynamic conversation evolving as well.</p>
<p>Perpetuity is an interesting question. I tend to think the choice to be perpetual or not should be up to the board and not enforced via taxation. However, I don&#8217;t think enough thought goes into creating a strategic time horizon for the foundation. I&#8217;m hearing more foundations, large and small, talking about not wanting to exist forever.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. Any thoughts you have on these issues is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean: Thoughtful comments on a a fascinating topic.  While I haven&#039;t fully delved into Ms. Bernholz&#039;s arguments, I view the general proposition of taxing some portion of foundation endowments an excellent arrow in the quiver of those who argue that foundations should not continue to exist in perpetuity.

The prospect of taxed endowments creates a powerful incentive for foundation boards to spend down over time, thus putting more money into the sector, rather than keeping it locked up in the market.

I look forward to the evolution of the conversation.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean: Thoughtful comments on a a fascinating topic.  While I haven&#8217;t fully delved into Ms. Bernholz&#8217;s arguments, I view the general proposition of taxing some portion of foundation endowments an excellent arrow in the quiver of those who argue that foundations should not continue to exist in perpetuity.</p>
<p>The prospect of taxed endowments creates a powerful incentive for foundation boards to spend down over time, thus putting more money into the sector, rather than keeping it locked up in the market.</p>
<p>I look forward to the evolution of the conversation.</p>
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